The Times Before the Times of the World

“God has delivered us and called us by His holy calling, not according to our own works, but according to His own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the times of the world(2T 1:9). Again it is confirmed: “Unto the hope of life everlasting, which God, Who lies not, has promised before the times of the world” (Titus 1:2). Notice this ‘purpose, grace and promise,’ it all has a specific meaning!

Four words I wish to clarify before we begin:

Create is to bring into existence: “In the beginning God created heaven, and earth” (Gn 1:1).

Begot is an event which has happened in creation: “Henoch begot Irad, and Irad begot Maviael…” (Gn 4:18).

Beget is to procreate as the father: “And as for Ismael I have also heard thee. Behold, I will bless him, and increase, and multiply him exceedingly: he shall beget twelve chiefs, and I will make him a great nation” (Gn 17:20).

Make to cause to happen or to bring into existence: “God said: Let us make man to our image and likeness” (Gn 1:26).

A question immediately arises: Where was this ‘man’ whom God first mentions in the Bible? Here is the mystery, yet He has given us the answer. We will develop this answer in stages.

The times before the ‘times of the world,’ that is before when in ‘the beginning God created heaven, and earth,’ so much happened, and it is all revealed in Sacred Scripture. Scripture reveals scripture and in His Light we see light. When the Psalmist wrote: “The Lord said to my Lord: Sit Thou at My right hand until I make Thy enemies Thy footstool…from the womb before the day star I begot Thee” (Ps 109:1,3). That is, God the Father said to His Son Jesus Christ that He the Father begot Jesus His Son in the womb before the creation of the times of the world. The womb had to be in existence before the creation of the ‘heaven and the earth.’ (The heaven includes the heavenlies, that is the angels and archangels which includes the ‘day star’). It follows that ‘man’ had to be in existence in the womb in the heart of God the Father of Creation before the times of the world. Why do I say this? Because God said ‘Let us make man…’ This entity, this being, is the answer to so many questions. This womb had to be Mary, for we all know that She conceived of the Holy Ghost and brought forth Jesus Who is the Christ (Lk 2:7).

Begotten Soul

Now we come to the definition of what is this ‘man.’ When it is written: “And the Lord God formed man of the slime of the earth and breathed into his face the breath of life, and man became a living soul” (Gn 2:7), it follows that ‘man’ was a ‘begotten soul in the womb, in the heart of God the Father in eternity. This ‘begotten soul’ and all begotten souls in the heart of God the Father in eternity, God called ‘man,’ therefore when God said let us make ‘man’ to Our image and likeness, ‘man’ was already in existence in the womb of Mary, and would now be formed in a new creature.

Living Soul

This man did not become a ‘living soul’ until God gave him a human bodily substance in Adam: “The first man Adam was made into a living soul; the last Adam into a quickening spirit. Yet that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural afterwards that which is spiritual. The first man was of the earth, earthly: the second Man, from Heaven, heavenly(1Co 15:45-47).

Taking this verse in steps we see and understand that the first man was made into a ‘living soul’ contained in a human body.
In our journey through life we the last Adam into a quickening spirit, that is we overcome the allurements of the world and enter into the Divine Nature won for us by Christ Jesus, and given to us through the valid reception of His Body and Blood in Holy Eucharist. By eating and drinking His Body and Blood in Holy Eucharist, Christ Jesus comes to live in us in Eucharistic unity, and we grow more and more into His image and likeness as it is written: “As often as you shall eat this Bread and drink the Chalice, you shall show the death of the Lord, until He come” (1Co 11:26). By following the simple directions of worthily receiving Him in Holy Eucharist, we enter into the promise of the Divine Nature of the ‘heavenly’ man, “this mortal must put on immortality” (1Co 15:53), and this only comes to us in Holy Communion.

Adam was not first a ‘spiritual’ being but a natural human being formed from the slime of the earth, ‘Yet that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural, and then God breathed into his face and Adam became a spiritual being: afterwards that which is spiritual.
When we complete our life on earth (the first man was of the earth, earthly) then we enter into the promise of Jesus Christ and live in our glorified bodies as we see in Jesus: the second Man, from Heaven, heavenly.

This living soul was given a human body to carry it so to speak, as it is written: “And Adam called the name of his wife Eve because she was the mother of all the living” (Gn 3:20). Eve was taken out of Adam as Holy Writ records: “Then the Lord God cast a deep sleep upon Adam and when he was fast asleep, He took one of his ribs, and filled up flesh for it. And the Lord God built the rib which he took from Adam into a woman and brought her to Adam. And Adam said: This now is bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of man” (Gn 2:21-23). Therefore ‘the womb’ of this Eve, ‘mother of the living’ is secondary to Mary, the ‘womb before the day star,’ because Eve was made from the rib of Adam, the first ‘living soul’ – and was taken from ‘the womb’ of Mary which existed before ‘God created heaven, and earth.

Two Extraordinary Events

The identification of the original womb is the Mother of Jesus Christ the Son of Man. Before God made Eve and placed all the progeny of the sons of man in the womb of her, ‘the mother of all the living’, He withheld two ‘begotten souls.’ That is He withheld Jesus Who is the Messiah, and Mary, She who was to be the Mother of Jesus Christ. This had to be, as there was an earthly order in creation, so too there was a Heavenly order. This Heavenly order had a Mother in whose womb existed all ‘begotten souls’ which later in eternitygiven earthly bodies and became ‘living souls’ as we have seen. For those souls who follow God’s Law there will be a return to our Heavenly state of immaculate perfection in our Heavenly Mother: “How long wilt thou be dissolute in deliciousness, O wandering daughter? For the Lord has created a new thing upon the earth: A Woman shall compass a Man(Jr 31:22). We all must be born again and return to our Mother Mary, the Mother of Creation and be encompassed in Her immaculate womb: “For as the woman is of the man, so also is the man by the woman, but all things of God” (1Co 11:12). Everything is done in God’s Divine Order.

The First Extraordinary

Event Mary was and is sinless confirmed in scripture as her Son was He “Who knew no sin” (2Co 5:21). Therefore Mary was conceived without sin. At the appropriate time in the genealogy of the Levitical Priesthood, the seed of Mary was placed in the womb of her earthly mother Anna. The last Patriarch Joseph, became the ‘just’ spouse (Mt 1:19), of Immaculate Mary, to whom was entrusted the Son of God, Jesus the Christ.

The Second Extraordinary Event

The Archangel Gabriel said: “Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God. Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb and shalt bring forth a Son and thou shalt call His Name Jesus” (Lk 1:30,31). How did Holy Saint Joseph respond? “But while he thought on these things, behold the Angel of the Lord appeared to him in his sleep, saying: Joseph, son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife, for that which is conceived in her, is of the Holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a Son and thou shalt call His Name Jesus, for He shall save His people from their sins. Now all this was done that it might be fulfilled which the Lord spoke by the prophet, saying: Behold a virgin shall be with Child, and bring forth a Son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. And Joseph rising up from sleep, did as the angel of the Lord had commanded him, and took unto him his wife. And he knew her not till she brought forth her First born Son, and he called His name Jesus” (Mt 1:20-25).

Some commentators take this verse ‘he knew her not…’ as meaning that Saint Joseph had intercourse with Mary and had other children by her. This is simply not so. The word ‘till’ was a manner of speaking at that time in the Middle East, and is grossly misunderstood by Protestants. They take the verses from Saints Matthew and Saint Mark as their support for their argument: “Is not this the carpenter’s Son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brethren James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Jude” (Mt 13:35). Again: “Is not this the carpenter, the Son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joseph, and Jude, and Simon? Are not also His sisters here with us?” (Mk 6:3).

In the verse quoted previously in this document, God said to His Divine Son: ‘Sit Thou at My right hand until I make Thy enemies Thy footstool.’ By heretics interpretation do they really mean that Jesus shall sit no longer after His enemies are defeated? They speak rubbish! Scripture reveals scripture: “Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ and brother of James: to them that are beloved in God the Father and preserved in Jesus Christ and called” (Jude 1:1). Why would Jude not call Jesus his Brother if in fact Jesus was His brother? He says he is His servant! If Jesus had sisters, then why did Mary’s mother Anna call two daughters ‘Mary’? “Now there stood by the cross of Jesus, His mother and His mother’s sister, Mary of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalen” (Jn 19:25). Don’t you see how erroneous those Protestants are? Let us move on.

When it is said that ‘he knew her not till she brought forth her First born Son’ it simply means that God intends the ‘living soul man’ to return to Him through the same way that He created us in the womb before the daystar as stated above! That is, we must be born again in the Immaculate Womb which conceived Jesus the Son of Man in eternity, before the times of the world. Mary conceived in her immaculate virgin womb Jesus the Son of Man, and all of humanity including Eve and Adam, before the creation of the world. Jesus Christ, God, was subject to Mary and obeyed her request, as we see at the miracle at Cana, how the stewards came to Mary for help and not to Jesus, and how Jesus obeyed His Mother (Jn 2:4,5), obedience – the Son for His Mother!

Let us take another event and look at the conversation of Jesus with Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: “Jesus said to him: ‘Amen, amen, I say to thee, unless a man be born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God.’ Nicodemus saith to Him: How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born again? Jesus answered: Amen, amen, I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh: and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Wonder not that I said to thee: You must be born again. The Spirit breaths where He will and thou hear His voice but thou know not whence He comes and whither He goes. So is every one that is born of the Spirit. Nicodemus answered and said to Him: How can these things be done? Jesus answered: “…no man hath ascended into Heaven, but he that descended from heaven, the Son of man who is in Heaven” (Jn 3:3-9,13).

Who is this Son of man? (Jn 12:34). Notice that Jesus never commented directly when Nicodemus asked can man enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born again! He answered in the order in which the ‘living soul’ man came into existence from the ‘begotten soul’ in eternity: ‘ Amen, amen, I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Wonder not that I said to thee: You must be born again. The Spirit breaths where He will and thou hear His voice but thou know not whence He comes and whither He goes. So is every one that is born of the Spirit.’ Nicodemus did not confess Him because he loved the glory of men rather than the glory of God (Jn 12:43), yet he corrected this when he stood firm for Jesus at the Cross and carried His Body to the tomb.

Consider the two events of Mary and Jesus:

1). Mary became subject to fallen man – Eve – yet remained obedient to Almighty God by being obedient to her earthly parents and her earthly spouse, and she herself knew no sin.

2). Jesus the Christ became obedient to earthly man – Joseph and Mary – yet remained obedient to Almighty God: Jesus “went down with them and came to Nazareth and was subject to them…And Jesus advanced in wisdom and age and grace with God and men” (Lk 2:51,52).

Did Jesus Christ exist before the making of Adam? Of course He did! It is written: “Jesus said: Amen, amen, I say to you, before Abraham was made, I AM” (Jn 8:58).

Since God has delivered us and called us by His holy calling, according to His own purpose and Grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the times of the world, unto the hope of Life Everlasting before the times of the world, then Saint Paul was given the insight of who we were and how we existed in the Heart of God the Father in eternity, then we must know that we have been instructed in earthly living while we were yet ‘begotten souls’ in the womb of Mary as stated above: ‘For as the woman is of the man, so also is the man by the woman, but all things of God.’

In conclusion, Eve the ‘mother of all the living’ was begotten in the womb of Mary ‘the mother of creation,’ in the Heart of God the Father, in eternity. Mary was the First ‘begotten soul,’ and Eve the first ‘living soul’ and she came from Mother Mary’s womb. Mary is the first ‘man’ from whose womb in eternity we were all begotten.

Forget not that Jesus is the Savior of mankind, the savior of creation: “Let Thy hand be upon the Man of Thy right hand and upon the Son of Man Whom Thou hast confirmed for Thyself” (Ps 79:18). Wise men today still find Jesus through Mary: “And entering into the house, they found the Child with Mary His mother” (Mt 2:11).

Do all Christians have Christian Citizenship?

All Roman Catholics, all Protestants, all Orthodox (Greek, Russian etc) all Coptics, call themselves ‘Christians’. Is this really so? In a sense they are correct, but in the fulness of truth they do not have Christian Citizenship!

Let me explain this by the way of my own personal civilian experience.
I was born in Northern Ireland and was made a ward of the British Court system at the age of 5. By being born in Ireland I also had the option of being an Irish citizen. At the age of 19 I decided to emigrate to the United States of America. My choices were to get an Irish passport or a British one. I opted to go completely legal and get release from being a ward of the British system, thus avoiding any problems later in life from that source.

I arrived in the USA in June 1956, and as requested by my alien status I made myself available to be drafted into the US Army for a two year period. In actual fact I enlisted for three years because of the benefits at the end of my tour of duty. When I joined the army, I was given a uniform with two labels on it: the first one was ‘U S Army’, and another label ‘Devlin’. I was an American, and American soldier, sworn to defend the United States. I was happy and proud to be an American – but I was an alien American and not an American citizen.

After being honorably discharged at the age of 24, I was legally qualified to apply for citizenship in my adopted country which had welcomed me in 1956. Having purchased and studied a book published by the Daughters of the American Revolution, application was made through the courts for citizenship, and after satisfying the judge that I knew some American history, he had me place my hand on my heart and swear allegiance to my new country – ‘one nation under God.’ A very happy American was now an American citizen! I had the same rights as every other citizen of the USA. America was good to me and I continually give thanks.

Similarly, when I was born, I was baptized about 30 days later. Made my first Confessions and Holy Communion at age7. Confirmed in the Holy Ghost at 11, and was then a full Christian Citizen. In the intervening years I lived up to the demands of the Catholic Church, adhered to the Seven Sacraments, the Precepts of the Church, and studied the Scriptures. In other words, I lived up to my commitments for Christian Citizenship.

The Seven Sacraments are the seven pillars of wisdom (Pr 9:1), which are the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven (Mt 16:19).

It is in our becoming a Christian Citizen, that we become one in Christ, and He becomes one in us. That is we are translated into the new man which is the Christian Citizen. There is only one way that this can be accomplished, and one way only – we must believe, live, and fulfill the Seven Sacraments of the Church as given to us by Jesus Himself. There are no exceptions and no short-cuts.

Jesus established the Seven Sacraments in Himself for our citizenship and oneness in Him. These Seven Sacraments allow man of his own free will to return to full citizenship in God.
First. At the Fall, in the act of disobedience, man fell from grace (Gn 3:24). The creature, made to the image of God was destroyed, but in the Sacrament of Baptism the way was made for man to be washed and renewed in God’s peace (Gn 8:11). Jesus established the Sacrament of Baptism by His Own baptism by John the Baptist in the Jordan (Mt 3:13-16).

Second. Man would continue to sin, and so God instituted the Sacrament of Confessions, for man to be made immaculate again. Jesus gave the ordained Apostles power to forgive sins: “Now when it was late the same day, the first of the week, and the doors were shut, where the disciples were gathered together for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst and said to them: Peace be to you…He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father has sent Me, I also send you. When He had said this, He breathed on them and He said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them: and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained” (Jn 20:22-23). He also said: “Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in Heaven: and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, shall be loosed also in Heaven. Again I say to you, that if two of you shall consent upon earth, concerning anything whatsoever they shall ask, it shall be done to them by My Father Who is in Heaven” (Mt 18:18,19). See here the two, the priest and the penitent.

Third. God set up the Sacrament of Holy Communion, so that man could come back to unity in Him, and God could re-enter His creature – man, thus allowing man to return into holy co-union in God, which unity Adam gave away to Satan at the Fall. “Whilst they were at supper, Jesus took bread and blessed and broke and gave to His disciples and said: Take ye and eat. This is My Body. And taking the chalice, He gave thanks and gave to them, saying: Drink ye all of this” (Mt 28:26,27)…“And taking bread, He gave thanks and brake and gave to them, saying: This is My Body, which is given for you. Do this for a commemoration of Me” (Lk 22:19). (See also Jn 6:51-57).

Fourth. God recognized in man that the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak, and so, He established the Sacrament of Confirmation to assist man, to receive the Spirit of God, that is, the Holy Ghost, back into his life. Jesus promised:“I will ask the Father: and He shall give you another Paraclete, that He may abide with you for ever, the Spirit of Truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it sees Him not, nor knows Him. But you shall know Him; because He shall abide with you and shall be in you. But the Paraclete, the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in My Name, He will teach you all things and bring all things to your mind, whatsoever I shall have said to you” (Jn 14:16,26). He told them: “And I send the promise of My Father upon you: but stay you in the city till you be endued with power from on high” (Lk 24:49). Then it was fulfilled: “And suddenly there came a sound from Heaven, as of a mighty wind coming, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. And there appeared to them parted tongues, as it were of fire, and it sat upon every one of them, and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they began to speak with divers tongues, according as the Holy Ghost gave them to speak” (Ac 2:2-4).

Fifth. At the Fall, the unity of man and woman in marriage was broken, and the evil one became an intruder in marriage. God established the Sacrament of Matrimony, whereby man and woman could return to holy unity in each other, symbolic of the unity of God and man. Jesus said: “But from the beginning of the creation, God made them male and female. For this cause, a man shall leave his father and mother and shall cleave to his wife, and they two shall be in one flesh. Therefore now they are not two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man put asunder” (Mk 10:6-9). See the conformation of this in the marriage feast of Cana (Jn 2:1-11).

Sixth. At the Fall, man broke the priestly relationship with God, and man could no longer minister in God’s creation, because of his enslavement to the Devil. God established a way for man to minister to Him in purity and truth, through the Sacrament of Holy Order of the Priesthood. Jesus confirmed this: “And taking bread, He gave thanks and brake and gave to them, saying: This is My Body, which is given for you. Do this for a commemoration of Me…And you are they who have continued with Me in My temptations, and I dispose to you, as My Father has disposed to Me, a Kingdom, that you may eat and drink at My table in My Kingdom, and may sit upon thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel” (Lk 22:19,28-30).

Seventh. At the Fall, man incurred the sin of death when he disobeyed God, and became subject to the eternal death of Satan. God established the Sacrament of Extreme Unction, allowing man to avoid eternal death, and come to the lasting and highest anointing, which we receive in Jesus – that is – Eternal Life. “And it came to pass afterwards that He went into a city that is called Naim…And when He came nigh to the gate of the city, behold a dead man was carried out, the only son of his mother, and she was a widow…Whom when the Lord had seen, being moved with mercy towards her, He said to her: Weep not. And He came near and touched the bier. And they that carried it stood still. And He said: Young man, I say to thee, arise. And he that was dead sat up and begun to speak. And He gave him to his mother” (Lk 7:11-15). It is also written: “Is any man sick among you? Let him bring in the priests of the Church and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the Name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith shall save the sick man. And the Lord shall raise him up, and if he be in sins, they shall be forgiven him. Confess therefore your sins one to another, and pray one for another, that you may be saved. For the continual prayer of a just man avails much” (Jm 5:14-16).

He who denies any of these Sacraments denies Jesus Christ Who said: “He that shall deny Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father Who is in Heaven” (Mt 10:33). He also said: “Many are called, but few are chosen(Mt 20:16).

In summary for Christian Citizenship:
The first two Sacraments, Baptism and Confessions, are given to us for our personal preparation in pleasing God.
The second two Sacraments, Holy Communion and Confirmation, are for our gaining co-union and unity in God.
The third two Sacraments, Matrimony and Holy Order, are for our perfection and station in life.
The last Sacrament, Extreme Unction, is the final anointing of our eternal unity forever in The Eternal Word, which is entrance into Heaven.

These are the requirements given by Jesus for Christian Citizenship. Some people may wear the uniform, but they may not necessarily be citizens! It is written: “I know your tribulation and your poverty, but you art rich. And you are blasphemed by them that say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan…Behold, I will bring of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but do lie. Behold, I will make them to come and adore before your feet. And they shall know that I have loved you” (Apoc 2:9;3:9).

It is only by keeping the Seven Sacraments given to us by God that we have Christian Citizenship: “Now therefore you are no more strangers and foreigners: but you are fellow citizens with the saints and the domestics of God, built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone, in Whom all the building, being framed together, grows up into an holy temple in the Lord in Whom you also are built together into an habitation of God in the Spirit” (Ep 2:19-22).

I encourage all people to seek full citizenship in Christianity.